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  1. I have told the story before of how Carmel and I were in different countries throughout most of our period of engagement. I can still remember the enormous sense of loss I had when I heard the news that her first teaching appointment was to be in New Zealand, while I had to remain in Australia to complete my science degree. We had only recently become engaged and in fact had not even announced it to the rest of the family. And in those days it wasn't as though you could just hope across the ditch (that is the colloquial name we give to the Tasman Sea that separates Australian and New Zealand) It cost an arm and a leg! and back in those days, even a phone call was something you had to budget for and usually book ahead. There was no direct dialing in those days. How do you maintain a special relationship with a person you cannot see for a whole year? It wasn't easy and I well remember Carmel ringing me unexpectedly (her only phone call to me during the whole year) asking me if I still loved her. Of course, I reassured her and it was just as well because another man, who was a friend to both of us had just proposed to her.

    We both became good letter-writers during that period of separation. Letter writing was even more important than study and every week I would sit down and write a couple of pages about what I had been up to and likewise Carmel would write to me about what she was doing. It worked. Our relationship survived. Carmel arrived back in Australia at the end of the year and we were married 8 days later!

    The covenants: God wants a relationship with us. In some cases he has had a physical presence as in the exodus period, and at other times his presence has been through prophets and apostles. His letter writing (the Bible) is a communication constructed over several thousand years. Our communication back to him has sometimes been somewhat disjointed. What God really wants is the sort of heart relationship that affects everything we do. Here the parallel between my engagement experience and God's relationship with us is illustrative. Carmel and I loved one another before we were separated by circumstances. That love sustained us. It is why we spent time each week writing to one another - keeping the love alive. God wants that sort of relationship with us.

    Listen to how Paul describes it:

    And I pray that Christ will be more and more at home in your hearts, living within you as you trust in him. May your roots go down deep into the soil of God’s marvelous love; and may you be able to feel and understand, as all God’s children should, how long, how wide, how deep, and how high his love really is; and to experience this love for yourselves, though it is so great that you will never see the end of it or fully know or understand it. And so at last you will be filled up with God himself.

    Now glory be to God, who by his mighty power at work within us is able to do far more than we would ever dare to ask or even dream of—infinitely beyond our highest prayers, desires, thoughts, or hopes. May he be given glory forever and ever through endless ages because of his master plan of salvation for the Church through Jesus Christ. Eph 3:17-21 TLB

    I love that description of a spiritual relationship.

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  2. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?..... 1 Cor 6:19-20

    Relationships

    The sanctuary/tabernacle of old was a structure made of man-made material. Today, the sanctuary is our bodies. Christ wants to live and dwell in and among us. He is seeking a relationship with us. He said he is our Savior, Creator, Companion, Father, Husband, Best Friend etc. Are we responding to him by saying yes that is who you are to me. I love you also with all my heart but I tend to go contrary to your will many times. Please bring me back to you and bind my heart to you. There is no stronger love story in the bible dealing with human relationships as portrait in Hosea and his wife. The two 'Ps' in a 'Pod', Hosea and his harlot wife. Yet the Lord promised to heal the Israelites backsliding and he will love us freely. Hosea 14:4. Oh what love is this!! what love is this!!
    John 3:16-17.

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  3. What really is covenant? Is it merely the 'thing' that forms the 'rules' of relationship? Or is it SO much more/deeper?

    From a whole-of-Bible perspective, covenant is is a way of being rather than merely a way of doing according to the rules. Let me unpack what I mean...

    God is Three-in-One: three 'persons' that enjoy such harmonious connection that there is perfect 'oneness' - unity. And that unity comes at no loss of freedom or individuality.

    God is 'love' - pure omni-beneficence. This kind of love is 'compelled' to express itself in the benefiting any and all others to such a degree that without being able to do this, it would literally die of a broken heart.

    Ellen White proposes that this beneficence is the core of God's heart - and is parallel to what Jesus was offering the woman at the well: a spring of water welling up within and bubbling over to eternal life.

    If we catch what all of the above actually means, beneficence is at the very core of (abundant) life - because it is the very core of life.

    The true concept of covenant - so central to and pervasive throughout scripture from beginning to end - has unfortunately been missed because covenant is too often seen as a legally binding agreement. Ty Gibson, in his book "The Sonship of Christ: Exploring the Covenant Identity of God and Man" begins to lift the lid on what the Biblical experience of Covenant really is about. In the chapter entitled "Covenant Identity", Ty begins to unpack what 'covenant' truly is: living for the benefit of all others as opposed to living for the benefit of self at the expense of others. Covenant is a way of life and living - though in actuality it is the only viable way of life and living.

    As Ty states "everything wrong in the world is due to broken covenant - which is to say that everything wrong in the world is due to broken relationship, or violated love (beneficence)... All God wants (soul-desires) for the world is covenant faithfulness to be restored as our fundamental mode of existing (truly living). God only desires that each one would care for the wellbeing of all other ones." (bracketed words mine)

    When we begin to enter the much deeper awareness/experience of 'covenant' as "dynamic relational flow" arising from the "relational integrity" (Ty Gibson) of beneficence, we begin to understand why God seeks to dwell amongst, in the midst (that is to say, at the very core) of humanity and of each human. For unless God is within our very core (see John 17:20,21), covenant/beneficent-life and living is not possible (see Genesis 6:5).

    With brief mention of the notion of God's soul 'not abhorring', this refers to God's soul not wanting to again 'co-experience' the 'gut-wrenching' distress that results when humans use the gift of life to abuse, exploit, harm and destroy others - and themselves also in the process (the 'deeply grieved' described in Genesis 6:6). Unfortunately while God does experience this all too frequently, it is understandable that God's deepest soul-desire/longing is to experience 'covenant' with his created children rather than the heart-break of 'broken covenant'.

    I would invite you to begin to explore and reflect upon covenant at the deeply experiential level that it actually is - deepest-core, soul-desire to live in love with God, with all fellow humans and with the material world we were created to be stewards of. This is what we were created for - and what we are being invited to be re-created back to once again: the 'mind-blowing' concept of actually co-sharing in the abundant life quality that God experiences (Greek zoe: John 10:10).

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    • I believe Jesus made the covenant very simple and clear in His teaching. For the sinner, the path is plainly revealed: "Let him deny himself, take up his cross, and follow(imitate) Me." In another place He said "Repent ye, and believe the Gospel". The covenant law shows us what we need to repent of, and defines how belief will be expressed by the new life.

      Loving God is the simple act of placing Him FIRST in every consideration. Nothing sentimental about it, but rather a practical choice made easy when we see the goodness of God which leads to repentance and faith(Rom 2:4). Yet it is not so much complicated as it is undesirable for most sinners, who's pride and selfishness seems too precious to surrender. It is this personal cost that makes most turn away sorrowful(Mark 10:22). Love of self too easily inspires unbelief, and if we don't know the Lord, is impossible to overcome. This is why Jesus said that knowing God was eternal life.

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  4. Often in the corporate world the leaders will get the people together and ask them to create a vision and mission for the company. The vision is what they want to achieve and the mission is how they will go about to reach that goal.

    I believe the vision of the Everlasting Covenant of the LORD is:
    I will be your God,
    you will be My people,
    and I will dwell among you.

    To work out a corporate mission one needs to do a S.W.O.T. analysis -
    Strengths
    Weakness
    Opportunities
    Threats

    Is Leviticus 26 doing a SWOT analysis on the Everlasting Covenant as revealed from My Sinai? I believe it is.
    Strengths - the LORD is promising to multiply the people, protect them and make the land fruitful
    Weaknesses - the people must agree to live according to His Principles of Life -use His disc operating system/software not the oppositions' system
    Opportunities - the LORD will change/circumise/train their hearts and minds and thus their actions and has provided a way to rectify/forgive errors in the process
    Threats - if the people reject or despise His Principles then they are breaking the Covenant and will lose the provisions promised.

    But the Good News is that if they acknowledge their error in abhorring His Principles then the LORD is willing to re-boot and re-start the Covenant relationship again.

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    • Hi Shirley,
      I love your comparisons and SWOT analysis. I am taking Marketing right now and so I could relate to that as never before. Thanks, Tammy

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  5. We are aware that Moses had no budget to provide for the extravagant material requested to build the tabernacle.
    In Exodus 25:2 God told Moses:
    „ Speak unto the children of Israel, that they bring me an offering; of every man that giveth willingly with his heart ye shall take my offering.“
    And actually they did offer their best whether it was gold, wood or animal hairs.
    In Prophets and Kings E. White states:
    Devotion to God and a spirit of sacrifice were the first requisites in preparing a dwelling place for the Most High“.
    Consequently God says: My soul shall not abhor you, or as the NC Version translates: I will not turn away from you“, which reminds me of Hebrews 13:5
    „ I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee“.

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    • Amina- looking at the building of the temple/tabernacle, the Lord told Moses exactly to the last minute detail about how it should be done. How large; the length, the breath, the height. Many today are getting together in small committees and making plans for the entire congregation and building large edifice. Church building in our day cant be compared to the time of Moses. He had no mortgage or rent to pay. Have they consulted the Lord before coming up with a size and style for a congregation or are we just want the building to be looking 'good' in the community because as they say, the Lord house should be looking the best in the community. In so doing, we place heavy burdens on the members to keep bringing and bringing to support the buildings. Some congregations are so expensive to maintain, the members choose to rent out the building on Sunday for Sunday worship. Well, with the Covid19 and many had to stay away from the building and congregate on zoom at home, who were the looser, who gained? How was the rent paid for the large empty edifices?
      Did we remember the days of Solomon when he built all those places even for so many wives to go to worship their foreign gods, as a result, he taxed the people more and more. Was the Lord pleased? Are we doing this today? Are we asking the people to bring more and more to support the church in the name of love and devotion? What is a church without people?

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  6. Speaking for myself, I need a true transformation for this relationship to move on. I need a heart of flesh, a mind that is completely focus on the love of Christ for me! He has been such a great Father, and I have no idea how come He still has patience with me! I can only say that He is wonderful, to Him all glory, all might and power! I've been a rebel while God continues to offer me forgiveness! Thank God for His mercy! Thank God for my life! May my life be all given to Jesus Who has been able to give me more than I can ever deserve!

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  7. What I do not understand is why last weeks lesson and this week does NOT deal with Ezekiel 36:16-37. It gives the background and reason for the New Covenant.

    “16 ¶ Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 17 Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman. 18 Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it: 19 And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them. 20 And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land. 21 But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went. 22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name’s sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went. 23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes. 24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. 25 ¶ Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. 28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God. 29 I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you. 30 And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen. 31 Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations. 32 Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel. 33 Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day that I shall have cleansed you from all your iniquities I will also cause you to dwell in the cities, and the wastes shall be builded. 34 And the desolate land shall be tilled, whereas it lay desolate in the sight of all that passed by. 35 And they shall say, This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are become fenced, and are inhabited. 36 Then the heathen that are left round about you shall know that I the LORD build the ruined places, and plant that that was desolate: I the LORD have spoken it, and I will do it. 37 Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will yet for this be enquired of by the house of Israel, to do it for them; I will increase them with men like a flock.” (Ezekiel 36:16-37)

    They, His people brought shame upon the God they CLAIMED to serve no matter where they were! God had to vindicate HIS name because of HIS people! Has anything changed?

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  8. PP 45.3 "As man came forth from the hands of his Creator, he was of lofty stature and perfect symmetry. They were sinless. So long as they lived in obedience to God, they had the robe of light that continued to enshround them..."
    DA 161 " From eternal ages it was God's purpose that every created being , from the bright and holy seraph to man should be a temple for the indwelling of the Creator. Because of sin, humanity ceased to be a temple for God. Darkened and defiled by evil, the heart of man no longer revealed the glory of the Devine One...God dwells in humanity, and through saving grace the heart of man becomes again his temple. " The Jews did not understand the significance of the temple/ sanctuary/ building. They regarded with pride. Their soul temple or the temple of their heart were truly defiled by unholy thoughts and it was impossible for God to dwell in them. Take note. Dwell in them and dwell among them. The temple was to be sacred. 1Cor 3:16,16. "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy: for the temple is holy, which temple ye are". That is one of the conditions of relationships. We are not to defile so that God should live in us. How do we defile these temples? Misusing our bodies, eating unhealthy foods, watching bad movies, pricking these temples, putting tatoos on the temple, painting the temple, etc. Will God live I those temples? No. Ed 125. " The central theme of the Bible, the theme about which every other book clusters is the redemption plan. The restoration in the human soul of the image of God. From the first intimation of hope in the sentence pronounced in Eden Gen 3:15 to that last glorious promise of the Revelation, They shall see His face; and His name shall be in their foreheads Rev 22:4. "God want to have His name in our foreheads. It's our choice. Rev 3:20. Christ wants to dwell in us, the hope of glory. That's the relationship which should be developed or restored before probation closes for us.

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  9. Both the gospel and the covenant are eternal. are they the same? or just different aspects of the fact that Christ wants a renewal of a relationship torn apart by sin?

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    • Good observation Reynaldo.

      True life is abundant life (John 10:10). And abundant life is life based on the foundational principle of beneficence (self-giving love to others). And the principle of self-giving is inherently perpetual in nature. Thus it is eternal.

      From Revelation’s perspective, the eternal gospel is (a) the truth that beneficence is the only viable way of life and living - that contrary to The Serpent’s false insinuation, God was not holding humanity back from some other ‘more superior’ form of life. And (b) the eternal gospel is that the self-giving Lamb that was slain has paved the way for any and all humans who want to be restored back to covenant (via rebirth from self-seeking to a new heart and right Spirit of beneficence: John 3:3-6; Psalm 51:10).

      So, yes, covenant and the eternal gospel are referring to the same thing - eternal abundant life founded on beneficence.

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  10. - I will set my tabernacle among you
    - My soul will not abhor yours
    - I will walk among you
    - I will be your God
    - I will make you my people
    - I will dwell with you

    Through the sanctuary God gives us a divine makeover, He cleanses us from all unrighteousness and lives within our hearts, in close relationship with us. How much closer can someone get than living within us? I think of the relationship between a mother an child. Women experience another being living and growing within them, and what connection does this give a mother with her children? A lifelong, loving connection that tugs at the mother's heartstrings. The Savior wants this intimate of a relationship with us. The sanctuary enables us to have this intimate relationship with Him and for Him to be able to dwell with us without condemnation or abhorrence of the sin that consumes us without Him in our lives. This enables us to enter into a covenant relationship with Him. Indeed the covenant is in the very heart, the deepest recesses of the sanctuary. This is a sacred, Holy relationship with a deep, abiding presence in our lives. We are covered by the blood of Jesus.

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  11. God's desire to dwell among men can only lead us to conclude that He will help us to gain the victory over sin, since God cannot dwell with sin. The sanctuary teaches us how to be “cleansed from all unrighteousness”.

    If we understand the sanctuary as it is meant to be understood, we will realize that God is showing us the way to holiness, for without holiness, we cannot see the Lord(Heb 12:14) and live.

    God created all things for His delight. Forming mankind in His image and being called His sons and daughters, while calling Himself our Father, demonstrates we were made for fellowship with God, until sin ruined the possibility of relating to a Holy God face to face. He has made a way for man to become holy again through Christ, both justified and sanctified by His grace through exercising faith.

    The sanctuary demonstrates the means by which sinners become holy: by grace through faith.

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