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  1. Similar to the comment in nov 14th lesson stating that it is pointing not only to the moral law but to the ceremonial law or health laws
    I disagree with the statement. I think it is about the commandments and the statements in chapter 7: 7-12 confirms this. The example Paul gave was from the moral law. No where did he give an example of the ceremonial law.
    "Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good" Rom 7:12

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    • Why would Paul place a distinction between "law" and "commandment" -- Is he just repeating himself?

      I don't think so.

      If you've read my previous posts from last week you would see that there is a contrast taking place here between Romans 8:2 (law of sin and death) and Romans 3:27 (law of faith). We have a choice as to which law we will follow. If we follow the "law of faith" then we will automatically be found keeping the commandments because they are so intricately woven into it.

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    • The lesson is explaining to us what the believers in Paul's day would think of when he said, "the law" (without any modifiers). They thought of the whole body of law, which included the Ten Commandments, as well as what we sometimes call the "Mosaic" laws and anything else God had commanded, and Paul wrote with this in mind.

      Just because Paul didn't specifically cite any particular commandment doesn't mean it wasn't included.

      That said, it is evident that Paul uses "law" in a number of different ways, and when he modifies/describes a "law," we need to pay attention. For instance, when he refers to "another law in my members," he's clearly not referring to God's law, but to something else. The NLT puts it this way, "there is another power within me." (Ro 7:23 NLT)

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  2. From above..
    "He is showing that the law was necessary but that its function was limited. The law was meant to show the need of salvation; it never was meant to be the means of obtaining that salvation."

    This limited function concept of the law is getting increased exposure in the denomination. Sometimes you might read that the only purpose of the law is to point out sin.

    Do you think it is a fair/balanced evaluation of the purpose of the law?

    "I delight to do thy will, O my God: yea, thy law is within my heart." Ps 40:8

    "This is the covenant I will make with them after that time, says the Lord. I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds." Heb 10:16

    "If ye love me, keep my commandments." JN 14:15

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    • The purpose of God's law is to reveal the will of God to fallen man. It's when we disobey God's will for our lives that transgression (sin) enters into the picture 1Jn 3:4. It is in this manner that the law points out our sin, but it's chief purpose is to reveal to us God's will for our lives. The law is holy, just, and good. Rm 7:12 What must also be remembered is what the definition of sin is in the book of James. Jm 4:17 Sin is not limited to the 10 commandment moral law, it's the disobedience of any light that God has given to us that results in sin.

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    • It's not just the lesson authors or "the denomination" ... Paul himself makes it very clear that the Law was never intended to be "the means of salvation." See Ro 3:20, 28 and Ro 5:20, Ro 7:7, Ro 8:3, Ro 9:31-32, Gal 2:16, etc.

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  3. It is interesting to me that when the Apostle Paul makes any reference to THE LAW he never quotes anything from "The Health, Diet, Ceremonial, or Civil Laws." He just simply always cites something from "The 10 Commandment," list of MORAL CODES.

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    • And, something else that is interesting about how when the Apostle Paul only cites from the 10 Commandment Moral Code when making reference to THE LAW; he, not only, never refers 'Specifically," to the FOURTH COMMANDMENT SABBATH, but he never refers at any one time to ALL 10 of the Moral Code at any one time.

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      • And then finally Jesus Himself never cited the whole list of 10 of the LAW of 10 Commandment Moral Code at any one time but He narrowed them down to TWO COMMANDMENTS of 1. Love to God and 2. Love to man. I guess that both Jesus and Paul figured that GOD had already cited ALL !0 of the 10 Commandments at Mount Sinai, and then the Old Testament cites all 10 of them in two places in Exodus and in Leviticus. And also if THE LAW was to be "written in the heart" of God's People, why keep citing all 10 of them again and again and again, RIGHT?

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  4. Shouldn't the question be: In what sense have you died after the law? Paul said he was alive before the law (not knowing it and being convicted by the law). But after the law came to his understanding he died! His "old man" died that he could be spiritually made alive in Christ! He once said "I die daily.." So the question should be: In what sense have you died after the law. What say you?

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