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  1. So true. Search the Scriptures for yourself. The best lesson I've had is how to study the Scriptures, and to use the study resources like commentaries, concordance, topical bible, comparing versions and our study guides.

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  2. It is so important to study the Scriptures to find the truth but just as important is that once we have found the truth is to share it with others. The Word promises us wisdom and understanding and EGW shows us how important studying is to enable us to share with others.

    And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord. Isaiah 11:2.

    As the Holy Spirit opens to you the truth, you will treasure up the most precious experiences, and will long to speak to others of the comforting things that have been revealed to you. When brought into association with them, you will communicate some fresh thought in regard to the character or the work of Christ. You will have some fresh revelation of His pitying love to impart to those who love Him and to those who love Him not. Sons and Daughters pg 31.2

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  3. Your post was very timely and meaningful to me. Last week I received the most endearing letter from a person of Pentecostal persuasion whom I have never met. They let me know that it was their privilege to have come in contact with my non Christian family member and be a witness to them. They felt God had placed my family member in their care and they are convinced that God has a plan for their life that they are to help in that plan.
    I expressed my appreciation and thanked God while struggling with my "superiority" of the "Truth".
    I did go to God in prayer and I can see that His ways are not mine and He does not need counseling from me.
    Your post affirmed my answer to prayer. Thank you

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  4. It is very important to search the scripture daily and use all the resources available to you it very important to do it daily to keep in touch with God. I know about having to search the scripture because I brought up in a Sunday keeping Baptist Church. But as a young person I searched about the subject of the Sabbath. I also I had help with people in my neighborhood after searching and believing the scriptures on the Sabbath. I was invited to a house of believers on Friday night worship services and learned about the church later. I want to sum everything saying we are to search the scripture daily and learn and do what it says.

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  5. If one were to read the theology of John Wesley, you could understand the clarity of a Methodist Pastor speaking about sanctification. The main emphasis in his teaching had to do with the subject of Justification and sanctification. These were not originated by the Seventh- day adventist church,but taught by many reformers.

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    • Thank you Dennis for your comment. A few years ago I was given a daily devotional consisting of the writings of Andrew Murray, a Dutch Reformed minister of Scottish Presbyterian decent, who lived and worked in South Africa at the same time as Ellen White. At the time our Namibia Field (now Conference) met every morning for worship at which time the devotion for the day was a piece from Andrew Murray's book. The messages he wrote could not be faulted. Sanctification is a message God was giving His people of various faiths and we may be shocked to learn that Adventists aren't the only 'custodians' of that message as many of us have been led to believe. My pastor once advised me that I should not be afraid to read 'non-Adventist' books, but that I should read them like one eats fish i.e. "eat the flesh but spit out the bones". God expects us not to swallow everything we read or hear, but be like the Bereans. There is much that we can learn from our fellow "Sunday" Christians and by listening to them, they will be inclined study for themselves and we may be enriched and blessed by their faith and sharing.

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  6. Thank you for this enlightening article. This proves that God uses whom he please to send his message, because it is not the messenger but the message which comes from Him through His holy scriptures.

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  7. This is a confirmation to me, thanx for all the comments, saying to search the scripture's to prove another's sermon/comments are Biblical. I've did this, and been told you are so doubtful of everything can't U just believe. So this is very encouraging to me. Thanx for sharing.

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  8. That was surely insightful and something that Adventists like us need to learn of. We need to have open minds and open hearts that are willing to listen instead of jumping into a debate regarding the differences of our beliefs at the first opportunity. Our lesson does emphasize HUMILITY which makes us respectful of others and teachable as well. I have learned something precious today and I thank you all dear fellow believers.

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  9. I have learned in today's readings that many of us share the same hunger for the truth in regards to thinking outside the box in our religious beliefs. I believe that if it is in the Word of God, it deserves to be heard and compared to scripture regardless of a person's denomination. Just compare what is said with what God has to say. You will have the opportunity to start and build lasting relationships for the kingdom of God.

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  10. One of the great common themes for mankind is a search for meaning in life. When we take the opportunity to move from "knowing" to "learning" I have found that I can have meaningful conversations with people who have very different beliefs to my own. Not too many of my unchurched friends want to persuade me to be different, but they do not want to be told they are wrong either. Listening is half of the communication transaction and it is when we listen to others we can learn.

    One of the things that often scares us as Seventh-day Adventists is that we fear that by listening to others we will somehow lose our faith. A close relationship with Jesus (prayer, Bible study and contemplation) is the only sure way develop our faith so that it can be exercised in the cut and thrust of interaction with others.

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    • I think one of the least acceptable declarations is, "you are wrong". We have a knack for conveying this opinion in many different ways. How to be loving as well as sensitive to people of differing religious persuasion,is not foremost in our character. The question then is,how to accomplish the goal,what ever that might be? Conversion, enlightenment, religious authority, etc. Do we have a duty, a commission, that is the basis for our attempt, or is the attraction of being the winner of a heated debate more inviting? How do we keep the perspective level?

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    • Dear Maurice,

      You mentioned, "knowing" to "learning" and I hadn't thought of that perspective before. It seems when we already know everything, the door of the heart and mind is closed to many things. In our own church, we are often unteachable because we know "all the truth from the Bible and EGW".

      I meet many people who think they know everything and this is happening in all ages and all kinds of people. It's happening in spiritual areas, health and all kinds of subjects. The internet is in in the hands of most people and once people read something there, they think they are experts.

      I like what Solomon said when he became king, "I don't know how to go out or come in." King Jehoshaphat once said, "...we have no power, nor do we know what to do, but our eyes are upon you". I think we need discernment and openness to what God wants to teach us. He sends us messages through the Bible, people and experiences. Being teachable is a good trait.

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    • I also think we need to be teachable but at the same time we also need discernment so that we don't swallow everything. Over and over again the Bible tells us to test everything (1 Thess 5:21; 1 Jn 4:1). To me the fool has no discernment and believes everything that drifts under his nose.

      I think there are times when we need to be as rigid as iron in discernment. There also times when we should be as pliable as cooked spaghetti; a sponge to righteousness but impermeable to sin. Wisdom teaches us when to be one and when to be the other.

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  11. Your post is so very timely. I wanted so very badly to ask this question in Sabbath School last week. However I wanted to go a step further. I was wondering if any wisdom can be found in the teachings of philosophers such as Confucius. I was very surprised to find that he was perhaps the first known writer to have penned the golden rule, do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Was Jesus quoting him, or was He the one who had originally dropped that into the mind of Confucius?

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    • I don't know about the source of Jesus' quote, but I did read that John opened his gospel with reference to "logos"--"in the beginning was the word," etc. in direct reference to Proverbs 8:22 ("The Lord possessed me at the beginning of His work.") The reason he did this, according to the commentator, was to demonstrate to the pagans that the Hebrew religion was older than theirs. Proverbs predates Confucius by a couple hundred years, for example. John pointed out that the roots of Christianity were as old as the earth itself, and that means something. John's writing is special to me for many reasons, and this is one of them.

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  12. This article is both relevant and transcendent. The Lord can and will use anybody, and/or anything to bring glory to His name (and to bring completion to His plan on this earth). I like to think of God as an astute investor, He knows to diversify His portfolio to get the greatest returns. God is preparing a Remnant Church and at the "Big Reveal", some of us will be surprised to see what that Remnant consist of. Stay focused!

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  13. I find that oftentimes God has to bypass us SdAs in order to get the "truth" out. However disheartening it is to know that an Sda pastor did not understand the teachings of sanctification, praise God that when the truth was spoken, (hopefully she studied) and then received/believed it.

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  14. Because we live in a world where good, evil, right and wrong are VERY real, the human brain MUST be taught. It is apparently designed to capture, retain and retrieve information on its own without any formal instruction or even individual conscious effort. Without getting technical,the words "prejudice", "discernment" and "discretion" are related in that they in effect describe our brains positive or negative use of information. While in the instance recorded in Acts 17:11 NLT the Bereans' "open-minded(ness)" is portrayed positively the open-mindedness of the "man of God" in 1 King 13:9,18-24 isn't. How can we be assured that our open or closed-mindedness isn't inappropriate? Both mind states can be dangerous under different circumstances. How did they know that Paul and Silas were teachers worthy of their trust? And if Paul and Silas taught them from the Scriptures, how did they decide that the new teaching was to be "believed"? (Acts 17:12). Even though we use our minds daily with generally fair outcomes, Scripture teaches that with respect to the things of God the present state of the human mind is objectionable (Rom 8:7; Jer 17:9-10). Our greatest human need is a dependable, infallible repository of discernment (Prov 3:5-6;Isaiah 30:20-21;John 14:16-17). May all those professing discipleship submit to the authority of a loving Father who diligently oversees the growth of all His children (Isaiah 7:14-15;Heb 5:8-8). The Father has made ample provision through Christ for that growth to occur (1 Thes 2:13; 1 Cor 2:12), let us establish a working Faith relationship with Him.

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    • Lynol, you raise a significant perspective on the issue of knowing. There are three ideas that I always like to keep in mind.

      • Truth is a journey. There is always something to learn and something to unlearn.
      • Search out the truth for yourself so that ultimately you do not depend only on what others have told you.
      • The community of believers provide a valuable feedback mechanism that has the potential to save us from going off on a tangent.

      Being open minded does not mean accepting everything. But we are invited to search discover and test.

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