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Women in the Ministry of Jesus – Hit the Mark — 12 Comments

  1. Women has a very unique approach to love by heart. Woman may or may not reason for love,comfort and blessing which are important directions of her heart. Certainly I am talking from my own heart which are developed by inheritance and what I have been picking up from my circumstances in life. I am very fortunate because my parents loved the Lord Jesus Christ and us as 3 children. So they taught us to trust in God. As I respond to it, God helped me to develop a heavenward direction in my heart and mind. The principles of this direction by the Holy Spirit create balance in my heart and mind and all around me. As I touch unclean I would became unclean, defiled if Jesus the "living water" would not be in my heart. As the Holy Spirit influences and teaches me to understand the meaning of my life in the plan of salvation, He helps me to build in it for His Glory. He automatically fills my heart with unconditional love for others to be a blessing in different areas and situations of life in God's wonderful hands.

    [Off-topic redacted.] Definitly I see woman to minister in so many ways to her family and others. In my family I had to be strong not to be defiled by my "unbeliever" husband. And teach my daughter to trust in God even though of the so much counteract by her own father. I believe that if the living water flowing through me I cannot be defiled, instead of others got clean...drawn to Jesus. By everyday alcohol the mind heart cannot be touched by the Holy Spirit. I chose a husband unequal. Great mistake! Never again! Now as a single Mother ,I have to be strong in mind and heart to take care of my 14 years old daughter and teach her to love God and be a blessing for others. God bless you!

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  2. 1. What does the word ministry mean to you?
    Luke 8:3- Giving of our substance to the furtherance of the Gospel work.
    Proverbs 23:26- Giving of our heart to the Lord for His service.
    Joshua 24:15- Giving of our house-hold to the service of God.
    Exodus 20:8-11- Giving of our time to the service of God.

    2. Is it true that men should as much as possible lead out in ministry? Why yes or no?
    Yes-
    Ephesian 5:23,24- Men should lead out in the household our little church (1 Timothy 3:5)
    Genesis 2:18- Faithful women are always a blessing standing beside faithful men (even their own husbands and children) in the work of saving souls.

    3. Is it true that men are more indispensable to ministry than are women? Why yes or no?
    No-
    1 Samuel 16:7- God can anoint whoever He wants for a work He wants to accomplish, men or women alike.

    4. What, if anything, do women uniquely add to ministry?
    Proverbs 31- The virtuous woman shows us the unique role that a faithful woman adds to ministry. They show a more compassionate and tender care in the nurturing of physical and spiritual children. I have seen this in the ministry and i praise God for all faithful women saved to serve.

    5. Is it true that we know all there is to know from the Bible about the role of women? Why yes or no?
    No- Proverbs 4: 18. Our knowledge will increase, we will understand more as Jesus gives knowledge especially at the 'time of the end' (Daniel 12:4)
    Deuteronomy 29:29. Everything that we need to know about women and their role for salvation has been revealed in the bible- the rest belongs to God. But Paul says that "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." 1 Cor 13:12 (KJV)

    6. Is the following statement True, Mostly True, Somewhat True or Not True: Because of Eve’s sin, women are no longer equals of men. Explain your answer.
    True- Genesis 3:16 "... he shall rule over thee."

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  3. 6. Because of sin women are no longer equal with men?

    It depends on whose view point is being questioned. Some will say that statement is true. And it has been the practice more often than not.
    But it is false in God's eyes.

    Gal. 3:28 There is neither male nor female for you are all one in Christ.

    QUESTION:

    Is Genesis 3:16 a command or a prediction of how women would be treated?

    Have any compared Genesis 3:16 with Genesis 4:7
    Can one help us understand the other?

    Compare Genesis 3:16 and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee
    With Genesis 4:7 If thou (Cain) doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his (Abel's) desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

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    • Ulicia, you have interpreted Genesis 4:7 (by supplying "Abel's") to say that Cain should rule over Abel. This is in contrast to the use of the word "it" (in place of "him") in the New American Standard Version, New Revised Version, New King James Version, and others. The context of the word "it" (or "him") indicates that God's desire was that Cain have victory over the sin which was then tempting him. The issue between Cain and Abel was not over who should have pre-eminence in the family, but over issues of obedience to God in worshiping according to God's specifications. Cain's offering was evil and Abel's righteous (1 John 3:12), and Cain chose to silence the one whose offerings and appeals were a rebuke to him (Patriarchs and Prophets, pages 73-74).

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    • Ulicia, I'm not sure that Gen 4:7 is a big help in interpreting Gen 3:16, but I believe your question whether Gen 3:16 is a command to Adam to rule over Eve or whether it is a prediction of what men will do in the future is valid indeed.

      In the first place, God is speaking to Eve, not to Adam. So he is not ordering Adam to rule over her. (When God speaks to Adam, he predicts some of the future difficulties of his life, including those brought on by the mutant varieties of plants that would arise on the planet.)

      Most translations say "he will rule over you," which is a prediction - a prediction of what the focus on self will do to the future relations between men and women.

      While Adam and Eve had been perfectly happy in each other's company, sin changed them immediately. When God questioned Adam, he immediately shifted blame to the one whom he had previously deemed so indispensable to his happiness that he chose to sin along with her, rather than to live without her. It was a symptom of the self-centeredness that is at the root of all sin.

      Human history tells the sad tale of how God'd prediction regarding the sons of Adam and daughters of Eve came true.

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      • Inge, if we did not have the Spirit of Prophecy, I would agree that Genesis 3:16 might be taken that way. Please consider the following from Patriarchs and Prophets, pages 58-59:

        Eve was told of the sorrow and pain that must henceforth be her portion. And the Lord said, "Thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." In the creation God had made her the equal of Adam. Had they remained obedient to God--in harmony with His great law of love--they would ever have been in harmony with each other; but sin had brought discord, and now their union could be maintained and harmony preserved only by submission on the part of the one or the other. Eve had been the first in transgression; and she had fallen into temptation by separating from her companion, contrary to the divine direction. It was by her solicitation that Adam sinned, and she was now placed in subjection to her husband. Had the principles joined in the law of God been cherished by the fallen race, this sentence, though growing out of the results of sin, would have proved a blessing to them; but man's abuse of the supremacy thus given him has too often rendered the lot of woman very bitter and made her life a burden.
        Eve had been perfectly happy by her husband's side in her Eden home; but, like restless modern Eves, she was flattered with the hope of entering a higher sphere than that which God had assigned her. In attempting to rise above her original position, she fell far below it. A similar result will be reached by all who are unwilling to take up cheerfully their life duties in accordance with God's plan. In their efforts to reach positions for which He has not fitted them, many are leaving vacant the place where they might be a blessing. In their desire for a higher sphere, many have sacrificed true womanly dignity and nobility of character, and have left undone the very work that Heaven appointed them.

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        • Thanks for your reply, John, but I do not understand how you see my comment to be inconsistent with the Ellen White quotation you present.

          God spoke to Eve, and He intimated that she was to subject herself to her husband, and the prophesied how man would abuse this arrangement. When God spoke to Adam, He did not command him to rule over Eve. He only spoke to him of the consequences sin would have in his life.

          Eve fell far below the station that God had designed for her when she listened to Lucifer, the fallen angel, through the voice of the serpent. Likewise, Adam and his sons fell far below the station that God had designed for they when they followed the example of Lucifer, the fallen angel, in seeking to rule their wives, rather than to lead them in the spirit of Christ. The desire to rule and to force one's will on another is the spirit of Satan and not of Christ. Such a spirit will have no place in heaven, because God has promised that sin will not rise a second time

          God calls the daughters of Eve and the sons of Adam back to the design He has for them, and that can happen only through mutual love and respect.

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          • Inge,

            I hear you making a difference between man being the "head" of woman as in 1 Cor.11:13, (But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God.) and a man "ruling" over a woman. Am I correct?

            It seems to me that you see God, while making man the "head" of woman, wants him to be as Christ is "head" of the church. The headship of Christ is not one of despotic, "fleshy," "the natural fallen man," control but rather the gentle, considerate, gracious, service-oriented, godly, (although not compromising with evil) attitude that seeks to win the heart into submission of what is good.

            Is the problem a lack of understanding of what true "headship" of husband over his wife means? Are most of us are seeing "headship" from a fallen human perspective rather than from a redemptive Christ-like perspective. Is Christ trying to lead man and woman back to the ideal of the husband-wife relationship that was intended at creation? "

            "God Himself gave Adam a companion. He provided "an help meet for him"--a helper corresponding to him--one who was fitted to be his companion, and who could be one with him in love and sympathy. Eve was created from a rib taken from the side of Adam, signifying that she was not to control him as the head, nor to be trampled under his feet as an inferior, but to stand by his side as an equal, to be loved and protected by him. A part of man, bone of his bone, and flesh of his flesh, she was his second self, showing the close union and the affectionate attachment that should exist in this relation. "For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it." Ephesians 5:29." PP 46.

            Am I seeing as you are?

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            • James, I believe you're right that a problem has developed from interpreting "head" from a self-centered human perspective which is the polar opposite of Christ's headship of the church.

              Paul explains what he means in how husbands are "heads" of their wives. He says they should be self-sacrificing, just as Christ gave Himself for the church. Christ modeled servant leadership. He showed the way and asked us to follow. He did not command us to do what He had not already accomplished. And, more than that, Christ enables us to do more than we could possibly to for ourselves. That is what I believe God and also Paul envisioned to be the relationship in a godly marriage.

              The quotation from Patriarchs and Prophets is interesting in several ways. Here, the author calls Adam "his second self." That implies complete equality, as does the rest of the quotation. A servant or slave cannot be one's "second self."

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  4. No I don't agree with the sentiment ''equal''if this means on the face of God I agree, if not the question will be equal in what? couse God when he created in Gen 2 He made eve a helper to adam how can a helper become equal to the master?

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    • Sipho, I'm not quite sure what you mean. But we can think of equality in several ways: Are men and women equal in value? I believe that Christ demonstrated that they are. The Genesis record demonstrates that Adam and Eve were created to be equal in value, with both created in the image of God. (Gen 1:27)

      They were also created equal in authority, because both, together were given dominion over this planet. (Gen 1:28) Sin changed this position of equal authority between husband and wife, and Paul made clear that husbands are to exercise their authority as Christ did - by loving their wives sacrificially as Christ did. Implied as well is that husbands will lead by example as Christ did. (Eph 5:25)

      Nowhere does the Bible call Adam a "master" over Eve. You misunderstand the term "helper" in Gen 2:20. In Greek the word is "ezer," and the word is more often applied to God than it is to women. I trust you would not say that man is "master" over God? (In Gen 2:20, it seems to mean that no "suitable companion" was found for Eve.)

      Here are some texts in which "ezer" (help or helper) is used of God: Ex 18:4, Ps 33:20, Ps 70:5, Ps 115:9-11, Ps 121:2, Ps 124:8, Ps 146:5, Hos 13:9. (There are more.)

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  5. Inge , I agree that the two at the foot of the Cross are equal, salvation has no male and female. Why is God asking Adam after they have sinned, Adam Where are you? However when it comes to authority, a man has authority given by God himself at Creation. According to the account in Genesis a woman exists because God Created a man so how can we have equal authority, remember Adam was the one who gave Eve a name. Then u want to inform me that this two are equal terms of Authority?

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