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Will We Remember the Old Earth When We Get to Heaven? — 12 Comments

  1. Great explanation. The 1st of your paper I thought no not right we can take some things literally. We do not want to remember the sins of the past, nor the atrocities we have witnessed on this earth. Then I read on and like your explanation. "The past will not weigh up on your heart." It then reminded me of Isaiah 26:3. Yes I believe He will keep us in perfect peace in heaven also and the new earth which I believe will be the new earth, because our minds will be stayed on Him. I too by the grace of God will be in heaven yes also so my family will not have any tears for me. Also in this case means like you, and to see Jesus face to face. By no means am I expressing spiritual elitism or superiority. By the grace of God He has humbled me and given me the power to pray, seek His face, and turn away from my wicked ways, He has healed me and family, also all who turn to Him as promised. 2 Chronicles 2:14.

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  2. Another thought is that the statement of wipe away all tears is just after John said he saw a new heaven and new earth, and the old heaven and old earth has passed away. Maybe the reference to the old heaven is the heaven that we see as we look up from this earth. But not the heaven and Holy City, we shall reside in for a thousand years, which is in or through the Orion. What are your thoughts?

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    • Hi, John. Paul said that someone he knew (obviously himself) had been caught up into the "Third Heaven," likely in vision. The explanation I've heard is that the first heaven is Earth's atmosphere, or firmament. The second heaven is the starry heavens, or outer space, and the Third Heaven is where God and the angels dwell. I expect that the heaven which, along with the earth, is to be made new, would be the first heaven.

      As for the former things not being worth bothering to remember, nor coming upon the heart, I think we need to bear in mind the kind of conditions in which we the redeemed shall find ourselves. We may not be able to conceive of the glories of heaven and the new earth, but I think we can understand that it's going to be good -- too good for us to want to shift our attention away from those things, to our past sorrows or trials.

      "Hallelujah! Heaven is cheap enough!"

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  3. While Jesus is wiping away our tears in loving sympathy, who is wiping his? While we weep for joyous relief in God's loving presence and in sorrow for all who lost what could have been, who will comfort God who gave his all to buy a pearl of great price, that is, each one of us? The sum of God's intense emotional response (his "wrath", οργης) are those who chose to accept his invitation to the wedding feast and those who did not.

    How will the past weigh on the heart of the One who inhabits eternity?

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    • Good question, Richard. Obviously, having Someone physically wipe your tears away could never be enough to remove your sorrow. There will have to some kind of resolution. From what I can gather, an examination of the case of each lost soul, sufficient to form a basis for sentencing, will reveal that person's stubborn resistance to truth and righteousness, and his or her ultimate hatred of God -- to the point where our sympathies will be thoroughly weaned from that person and placed on God.

      As for God, He is obviously far beyond our understanding. Nevertheless, I can think of two possible ideas.

      1) The lost are the object of God's wrath because of their attitude toward, and persecution of, His faithful children. So, however sad He might be at losing them forever, perhaps even He could find some resolution in the fact that He did everything He could to save them, but they themselves ultimately chose sin and evil.

      2) As unwilling as God is to let anyone be lost, in His foreknowledge He never ultimately planned on saving those who He knew would refuse the offer of salvation. So, in the end, the lost will not have been indispensable, either to God or to the universe.

      Isaiah 53 says that Jesus (i.e. God) will see the travail of His soul (i.e. the redeemed) and be satisfied.

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  4. I believe, and I can be wrong, that the text Rev 21:4 clearly states that there will be no tears to wipe. For there is no pain no sorrows no crying no death or anything else that will generate in a person's body the need to create tears. No sin, no problem.
    In regards to what we'll remember and not, we need to look at purpose or need of it. The following may be shocking or cruel. In Mat 22:28-30, when the Lord was asked about living on heaven as a couple, His reply was there is no need of it, like an Angel. Let's look at who an Angel is and how they live so then...
    I recall being in a funeral home. A young pastor friend of mine, married with children, while assisting someone in time of needs being asked, very demandingly, by his father to take him home. He had to stop what he was doing and take him out of love and respect to him. It's the 5 commandment. Could that be in heaven in the new Earth as well?
    Lastly, just living with the expectation that we are going to see someone that glorious day, in that beautiful place and it then doesn't happens, we will have pain, or be under stress until we see, find, that person.
    Therefore, who and how we will be it's the quest now so then it will be

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  5. We shall be remembering for sure but not burdened at all. This is explained by the fact that Jesus' palms will always have the scars of the nails from Gologotha for some reasons. That the children will ask always why does He have them then the redeemed will explain to the heavenly children who did not understand the things well.

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  6. I don't believe we will be crying any longer after the thousand years. I think the wiping of our tears and crying will happen during the thousand years when we are reviewing the sin of the world and realizing people we love, albeit justly judged, aren't there. I think after the thousand years we will remember, but no longer weep or mourn for the rest of eternity. And it is vital that we remember, lest we make the same mistakes again and sin. But our memories will be refreshed of how much we hate sin and how bad it is that we never, ever, for all of eternity choose to go that direction again.

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  7. Some memories will remain-the scars in the hands of Jesus and what put them there; that sin was responsible for them; and that we are with Him because He gave His life to save us.

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