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  1. Curtis, I'm guessing you object to the title because it's easy to count ourselves out from the subject, when it is expressed in such extreme terms. More applicable to us would be "I See, I Want, I Buy." Perhaps we had better read it that way.

    We need to ask ourselves if we falling prey to consumerism aka materialism aka "mammon."

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  2. ,The focus is sometimes a bit skewed. We do not all wear the same type, or size shoes. I also have heard the same offering call quite often in Malachi3:9,10, as mentioned by Curtis. The majority of our society have the same type of desires. The reference to Matthew 13:3-23- the parable of the sower, is very relevant and timely. I have read this many times but I see things that perhaps I have forgotten or not understood completely. I have wondered if the question by the disciples in verse 10 was logical? At any rate the answers that Jesus gave, help our eyesight and hearing problems that are badly needed.Matt.13:23.

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  3. When I read the title: "I see, I want, I take" I clearly knew the topic was selfish living in general, but if I read: "I see, I want, I buy" it would have giving the idea of just one part of selfishness which is the retailing part.
    God's promises are true and only those that believe, will see miracles, and yet when things don't happen the way we want or think, it is when we got to trust God, that He is in control, He knows what is best, "for all things work for good to those that Love God". God's Blessings come in so many ways!

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  4. I am tempted to comment something rather awkward! Many of the people who come to this country especially those like me from the third world countries as the world defines it, are faced with enormous tasks especially in trying to establish our selves. As you live your life here, back home from where you came from, the community back home keeps comparing you with so and so!. We live life's of hard work to please people back home,to better them and better ourselves in the communities we come from, so that, that stigma, "you are in America but you have nothing to show off cannot befall us. Ultimately we find ourselves living life's of "i see,i want,i take".

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  5. Fresh from a series of meetings focused on the gospel - I found this week's lesson very discouraging. Where is Jesus in this? We have a week of bashing materialism and consumerism, but is there any hope? Where is the gospel?
    I shudder to think of all the churches that may have a visitor for Sabbath School this week, and they leave thinking - man these people really bash on the rich people. As a teacher this Sabbath, I want to make sure we cover the lesson, but also make sure that Jesus is lifted up as the answer to the materialism and consumerism.

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    • To be fair, Sharon, the lesson raises the issue of how consumerism affects the church and us as individuals, rather than the notion that it is wrong to be rich. One of my concerns is that we make a lot of comments how we should lift Jesus up, and follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, with very little consideration of how that is to be accomplished.

      What is Jesus' answer to consumerism? Does that mean we should not buy anything for ourselves? A young person starting out in life and wanting to get married and have a family; Do they need to think about buying a house to live in? How does a follower of Christ prepare for retirement in a materialistic world? These are some of the questions that come to my mind and I would love to hear the practical application of following the guidance of the Holy Spirit on these matters.

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      • What I ended up presenting at Sabbath School yesterday was the beauty of stewardship from creation, and that we are created in God's image - a reflection of His desire to care for all in His territory, and He shared that image with us, a desire to care for all in our jurisdiction.
        We focused on the definition of stewards, and that we have been a duty to see to the provisions of all - that this is not a result of sin, but God's original plan in the beginning. When we failed, Jesus paid the supreme price that we might gain that original back again.
        With this focus on Jesus, lifting Jesus up, we had a very good foundation for exploring the practical ways that we can avoid materialism and stay true to the original plan.
        Lifting up Jesus and being practical do not have to be mutually exclusive.

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    • The bible is about God and man in that order, and the message is completely nonsense if we change that order. Therefore, the bible is not about being rich or poor because those are meaningless concepts for the owner of the universe. The book is about how broken is our heart and how it can be mended.

      Being rich or poor is circumstantial and they only will become an issue in the process of christian growth when our hearts follow evil ways. For example, the bibles tells of a man, probably rich, that returned dishonestly earned money when touched by the gospel and others, probably poor, that never came back to say thanks after being cured of leprosy. It is not the circumstance what matters, but the heart.
      If a selfish rich person is deprived of all his/her money probably will continue to be selfish and if a selfish vagabond is given unlimited money, that probably will not make a difference in his heart.

      This lesson week is not about our circumstance, but about our attitude. It is not about that we have become dangerously fat, but the about what in our minds was the driving force to gaining unwanted weight. Doing diets to control obesity or budgets to control expenses is incomplete unless we change the approach to food or money.

      Last week lesson made clear that the problem behind materialism is a loss of identity that only can be cured when we find our spot in the chart/scheme of creation. Once we are convinced that our value is the blood of our creator, every time we plan to add something to our estate, either modest or expensive, we need to check on why we need to do that. At first it looks difficult until it becomes a second skin deliberation.
      A good assessment may take into consideration how it will advance our professional growth, our family relationship, our worship, budget, savings, our peace of mind and our care for others less fortunate.

      Wrong reasons for expending are typically: unnecessary duplication of items, keeping up with latest tech or fashion (unless is a job requirement), or to impress other people.

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  6. Curtis, perhaps as a community we need the constant reminder of portions of Scripture like last week's memory text, Rm 12:2--which we'd do well to keep in a safe place of our memory. This text reminds us that mind renewal/transformation is at the very center of the "New Covenant" that Christ desires to establish with us individually (Mt 26:27-28; Heb 8:10).

    Without this necessary "heart transplant" (Eze 11:19-20) a billion and one lures wait patiently for us to bite to set off intense chest pains. How about even more subtle forms of the "prosperity gospel" you alluded to, which implies (if not states) that immersion in soul-winning activities, for example, secures God's favor for the soul-winner--and we can keep adding to that list, many such worthy lures (Mt 7:22-23)! You place you finger squarely on the problem when you said, "The customary emphasis is on God supporting us (even though our lifestyles are often not in harmony with His will)."

    How do we harmonize with God's will? Until we acknowledge that acceptable stewardship rendered to God is actually a lifestyle rooted in rebirth (Jn 3:3)--rebirth which symbolizes the actual removal of an old, susceptably deceptive mind (Jer 17:9) with it's replacement gift of a brand-new and stable one (Eze 36:26)--we're destined for burnout. We'll be destined for the fruitless exhaustion of compiling long lists of even worthwhile endeavors before that old heart inevitably succumbs to deceit (Mk 10:19-20,21-22). The deceits are numerous, and not all of them are overtly "sinful".

    May God grant us the ability to see, want and take only what He has to offer (Rev 3:17-19)!

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    • Hi Lynrol, That’s a good question – “How do we harmonize with God's will?” I think trusting in God and not doubting that He cares for and loves beyond all else, is a good place to start. When we have anchored our trust in Him then and only then are we able to “acknowledge that acceptable stewardship rendered to God is actually a lifestyle rooted in rebirth” It all boils down to trust. I love your closing comment/prayer that God will give us the ability to covet only those things which will draw us closer to Him. God bless.

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      • Georgia, the answer to this question of "How do we (Lynrol/Georgia) harmonize with God's will?" is foundational to our human roles as stewards.

        If God as owner (Ps 24:1; Eze 18:4) created us to be managers in the earth (Gen 1:26; Ps 8:6), then our FIRST responsibility is cerebral, that is, we MUST have CORRECT KNOWLEDGE of the One we were created to serve (Jer 9:24). Our SECOND responsibility is to serve in a manner that complements that correct knowledge (Mt 4:10; Ps 100:2-3). These two actions becomes the uterus within which trust is conceived (Mt 22:37-38; Jn 6:28-29) and acceptable service/stewardship is born.

        Only old, deceptively unreliable "wombs", like Sarah's (Gen 18:11), mysteriously empowered by its Creator (Gen 18:10,14) will ever have the capability of producing one like "Isaac" (Gal 4:28)--yet to such a production the elect has been called (Gal 4:24; Mt 26:28; Jn 14:23).

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  7. Hi Curtis, I also had an issue with the title of the lesson study “I see, I want, I take”. Or even the alternative that you suggested “I see, I want, I buy.” There is another alternative I read about from Tim Jennings “I fear, I need, I take” which goes to the root of the problem. I see things daily and I also love to look through catalogs. There are so many “stuff” to behold, it boggles the mind. However I do not become sad that I cannot afford those things, rather I rest assured that “God will provide all my needs according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus” (Phil. 4:19).
    I am figuring that Eve (Tuesday's lesson) must have looked upon the ‘untouchable tree’ every day and enjoyed its beauty (because everything God created ‘was good’). Her problem began when she was deceived by the lies of the serpent/devil, and she began to doubt God, which in turn led her to fear God and aroused the feeling that she needed to protect herself (selfishness) from Him, so she took the fruit which was in truth a false sense of security. (whew! – that was a mouthful). It did not begin with the eyes, but rather in the mind. It’s not about what we see or possess, it’s our motive for acquiring stuff that is the problem. That motive can also be warped based on the level of trust we have in Our Father. He admonishes us in His words that we should covet good gifts/the things of God.
    I understand what you are saying in relation to the lesson but I think the root of the problem needs to be highlighted hence the necessity for the transformation of mind and character which is the solution to the problem of covetousness.

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