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  1. Dear William -
    Thank you for your thoughtful post about faith and works. Raised Catholic, I attempted to distance myself from “works” when I was converted to this truth. However, this piece gives a sound explanation of the cause and result as explained throughout the verses you cite. A few months ago we lost our 31 year old son to septic shock just a few weeks after he was diagnosed with AML. He was like many Adventist kids - knew the Word, was baptized, but was not in the church. In his last hours of life in the ICU he was frantically apologizing to anyone he had wronged in the family. My last words to him were, “Call out to Jesus,” by phone, because I was not allowed to see him due to COVID. Somehow I must believe God attends us in a special way when we are dying, especially when loved ones cannot be there. Your post helped me today, a “work” that one day you will be rewarded for. From, a Heartbroken Mom

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    • Dear Sister Jan,
      As a mom of 3 sons, I can only imagine your pain! I am going to stop what I am doing right now and present you before our loving Daddy. He sees, He knows, He cares! Sending love and prayers, from my heart to yours xxxx

      Blessings,
      Dionne

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    • My deep heart condolences Ma Jan.

      Thanks Pastor Williams for your encouraging articles. Same I feel with tithing , I return my tithe because God has blessed me and not because I want Him to bless me. He is my sustainer at all times, He blesses me and I return a little out of the aboundant blessings.

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  2. Praying for you my dear sister. As a mother my heart goes out to you. Jesus hears, sees and understands your pain and is there to hold you close to His heart of love. I believe you will meet your son on resurrection morning as Jesus was with him at the time of his passing and would have led him to salvation. That's how I know my Jesus. Gotta love Him...gotta trust Him.🙏❤🤗🌹

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  3. Dear sister Jan sincerest condolences with love. l too believe and have read how GOD specially reaches out to those who are suffering and/or dying ‘alone’. His holy Presence and those of the angels surrounds them. It is the grace of GOD that enables our loved ones and one day our own selves to walk through the valley and to fear no evil and to be comforted..

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    • Thank you, Marcia, for this critical reminder. This "valley of the shadow of death" from Psalm 23 truly applies here, and I had not thought of my situation in light of this. You are special!
      Jan

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  4. Its sad that after all these years, we still deal with the "faith+works" issue. Why its this happening? My guess is that our older books contain a works-oriented view of salvation, and they keep being published and read.

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  5. Hi, William. Thank you for doing such a fine job of sharing the true relation between faith and works, and the true sentiments of the heart of God.

    I am intrigued by something on which you touched. You wrote: "Now I have heard it said that God only chose some to be saved at the beginning of the world but chose others to be lost."

    If that statement were intended to suggest that salvation is not open to all, or that God is less than intense in His desire for all to be saved, then you are absolutely right in opposing it. On the other hand, that saying must nevertheless be true in a way.

    Romans 9 tries to grapple with the fact that God knows what each person's free choices will be, and the consequences of those choices, before even creating that individual. Yet He creates people anyway, knowing that they will ultimately be lost, in order for them to fulfill some other purpose in His loving plan. And, of course, the inspired apostle insists that the "vessels of mercy" (those who will be saved) cannot boast in their own choices, but can only be thankful that God has chosen to have mercy on them.

    When Paul anticipates objections to what he is saying, he does not cite free will, as that might seem to open the way for boasting. He basically just puts his readers in their place, essentially saying that we must let God be God.

    I write this in order to make the point that, although we can understand enough about God to fully love and trust Him, He nevertheless remains far beyond our comprehension in His infinite love, wisdom, and power. Also, ultimately, human free will can never thwart God's purposes. He is able to work through and around it to bring about His intended results.

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    • Thanks R.G. I have always taken Romans 9 to be using the word hate and love as a matter of preference like in Luke 14:26. Meaning that God preferred Jacob to have the birthright over Esau and not that God preferred Jacob to be saved and Esau to be lost.

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      • Thank you, William. I agree with your assessment. It seems Paul was using that to illustrate the point that God's purposes will ultimately reach their fulfillment, regardless of the will of man.

        Everyone who is destroyed will have destroyed himself, but no one will ever save himself. Jesus liked to say, "Your faith has saved you." Yet even faith is a gift. All glory to God!

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