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  1. I’m always disturbed when I see the bereaved address their dead as though they are listening. When Paul says we should not mourn like the unbelievers, we need the know how unbelievers mourn and how believers mourn.

  2. This is the best explanation on what happens when we die that I have seen. Thank you for the clear understanding.

    One day I woke up to hear my husband groaning, I found him rocking back and forth in his wheelchair. When I looked into his eyes there seemed no life in them. I immediately called for help. When speaking to the woman on the phone, I was able to get him to lie on the floor; and I tried to revive him with CPR. When the paramedics arrived, they moved me away and attempted to resuscitate him. As they were working on him, I saw an energy leave his body and then return to it. I thought it was Ron ascending and then enter back into his body. Then I said to him that it was alright, he could go home. Immediately the energy rose up and vanished through the ceiling. I always thought it was Ron’s spirit, but now it seems that it was the breath of life that was breathed into us that returns to God when our bodies die.

    I remember what is written in Ecclesiastes 12:7, “And the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.”

    • Dear Celeste, Please accept my condolences on the loss of your dear husband. You are exactly right; that is the breath of life. I am looking forward to Christ’s return, when we will be with him and our loved ones who have fallen asleep in God’s love.

  3. I think, sadly, more and more Adventists do not have a clear understanding of what happens when we die. More and more I’m seeing songs sung with lyrics that suggest we go to Heaven when we die. No one seems to blink at them, but it makes me really uncomfortable. I’m not sure how we can reverse this trend. I do think it could have serious implications as we get closer to the end.

  4. Thank-you for your video. You kinda know most of us, I just had to look up Luke 23:43, in my Clear Word paraphrase of the Bible. Yes, the comma is in the right place, and it gives more understanding what Christ said to the thief on the Cross.

    Jesus turned His head toward him and said, “I promise you today, when I return with the glory of My Father, I will take you home with Me to paradise.”

    • John, the comma is in the right place because an Adventist wrote the Clear Word. It is not a Bible translation, but an expanded paraphrase, and really is not a good Bible for studying. There’s nothing wrong with reading it devotionally (I did one year), but proving things from it is not the best idea.

      The reality is there was no punctuation in the original text. While we would say the comma belongs after “today”, others put it in other places based on their interpretation. Better to look at other factors (for example Jesus not going to Heaven on Friday) and the whole Bible to make a case for where the comma should be.

  5. Good morning everyone.
    I find myself studying these comments and the total enjoyment of studying these topics with the Adventist brothers and sisters. I am much interested in the theological study of the Seventh-day Adventist church, and find some of the topics and beliefs in line with my past thinking and questioning other denominations. This topic is one that has perplexed me for over 50 years. The one which “electrified” me many years ago was The raising of Lazarus…the story shook me to the spiritual core…so I then began looking at other “resurrection” stories. The “comma” statement I also have reviewed. The one thing-that has commonality with all resurrection stories is this…”Not one-can I find asked Jesus-“Lord, why did you take me away from such a paradise with G-D as I was in Heaven-please return me.” This simple thought put me on a deep study journey. If we do indeed “float-transport-materialize” into Heaven directly upon death-why would we want to be “taken” back to earthly realm including all its misery? This may possibly be oversimplifying the context-but it is what sent me on this journey and ultimately found me studying with Adventist theology. Would anyone please like to elaborate further on my post it would be greatly appreciated…

  6. Inge: Thank you-I believe you are replying to me I wanted to also add that Scripture verse where “the dead know nothing…” it always struck me as odd that I never seen the discussion in Scripture about “why did you bring me back” scenario. My friend points to me about 2 Corinthians 5:8. Isn’t Paul just pointing out it is better to be with the Lord and absent from this earthly body? I still fail to see how that proves we immediately go to heaven. This isn’t a morbid curiosity on my part-rather a quest for Scripture truth. It is also my pleasure to have watched the program the Seventh Day with Hal Holbrook..I have found that the Seventh-day Adventist Church brings a refreshing view-and is answering some of the deep questions I had growing up in a different denomination…Thank you for this blog and the Church.

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At a camp meeting 40 years later, I happened to see Dr. I. demonstrating some kind of health product, if I remember correctly. (In my mind, I see only the image of him, much older, but still looking much like he did when I was a student, with a friend by my side.) I lingered a little but did not introduce myself. I briefly wondered whether he recognized me. I’m fairly sure that I was as recognizable to him as he was to me.

Had he changed? Or did he still feel superior in his “humility”? Should I talk to him? I didn’t know how to approach him, and was busy with friends. I still don’t know whether I should have said something. (Maybe I’m just a coward.)

If God wants him to see my story, his and my identity are clear enough in this post, that God can direct him to it.